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Discussing the Pitfalls of Genealogy |
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True Relics.. ok Jeff you win | ||
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In the spirit of Christmas I will just say that you win. You are the God of genealogy. Nobody can compare to your infinite knowledge and wisdom. You know where everything is (all in your broadly defined library
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Unregistered(d) |
Merry Christmas... | ||
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The answer is no. I don't profess to know it all or where it is. Again, you folks are reading more into it than is there.
The Internet is not a library, nor do I treat it as one. It is a tool only. Defining library: For simplicity sake, that includes your basic library, court house, archives or other repository holding the original books or other documents. Uning the term "library" broadly beats wring all of this out every time. And no, the Internet is not included in the above definition. While there are some scans out there, there is also a lot of abstracted material. That goes back to the simple rule of verifying the find. While the same mistakes happen in the above mentioned defined library, checking for errors is easier based on the availablity of multiple sources, which is something the Internet can not yet offer. Twenty years of library research and six years of Internet have shown me the difference. |
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Haaaavahd |
LinkPendium's Usenet NewsGroups ? | ||
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It appears that LinkPendium.com (sic) has a lot more "cleansing" to do of the Usenet File posted from the link on their main page. Maybe this is where their stated 1,538,575 (FOFLOL) links originate?:
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hehehehehe | ||
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Maybe LinkPendium needs a LinkCondium to repress runaway procreation.
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merope3 |
Re: The Traffic is Still Here ... | ||
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"The definitive directory to genealogical resources on the Internet" only indexes "American localities and surnames world-wide"?
Strange definition of "definitive," even for a Harvard grad. Although I notice in visiting the site that "American" actually is limited to "U.S.A." -Teresa I heard a great joke once about Harvard men... |
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Unregistered(d) |
Where were you all in 1987? 1996? 2000? | ||
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In the process of researching business issues in genealogy, I came across this discussion.
I'm frankly appalled at the nastiness of the Linkpendium critique, but quite amazed at the ignorance of the actual evolution of the Rootsweb resource. I began using Rootsweb in 1996 and contributed a few hundred dollars to the effort over the years - unlike many millions of users - either then or now. I happen to have been working in an Internet R&D environment during that time, and without regard to my interest in genealogy, I was technically knowledgeable enough to appreciate the skill, as well as blood, sweat and tears that made Rootsweb platform possible. Rootsweb was developed on a shoestring - a few hundred thousand dollars, as compared to the $100 million or so invested in Ancestry.com and the billions backing FamilySearch.com - the 3 sites that were running neck and neck in usage measurements, when Rootsweb ran out of money, and reluctantly agreed to keep it alive with the Ancestry deal. This was BEFORE the dotcom implosion and BEFORE the venture capitalists stopped throwing money at dotcom whims, much less something with substance that had a clear market and product. "Sellin out" to Ancestry was the lesser evil. The "sticky site" advertising revenue model for internet sites had not been supplanted by the content subscription model of today. Ancestry had the best of both worlds to make that transition and survive, and thus Rootsweb has survived. All that happened despite the fact that *some* disdainful members of the genealogical community with vested interests in less-innovative genealogy resource delivery referred to Rootsweb as the "800 pound gorilla" - pushing the envelope and irritating those who resisted change. Ancestry has it's warts and Rootsweb suffers from technical malnourishment "gliches" today, but that "evil doctor" and his lab rats built an infrastructure that even it's "stepchild" status hasn't killed. I would not discount this current project at all. He's building another infrastructure that looks to me like he will let the data tell it's own story. He might even have a sixth sense about the failure of deterministic linguistic analysis and data cataloguing, or he might have done his homework and found some of the mathematical models that show why many long held theories do not converge, that is, do not scale to the point where the rules outweigh the exceptions. In any case, I'm really glad I stumbled across this discussion and I looked a little more closely at the architecture of what he is doing. I ran a couple of little scenarios that I use when I'm checking out the characteristics of a tool and found a nice little plum - a guy in British Columbia who published a genealogy connecting my Prince Edward Island lines with Yorkshire, England in the 1700s. I'll have to contact my Ontario cousin, who also told me that he was working on the Yorkshire connection and see what he knows about the work of the fellow in British Columbia, and then of course there are more threads to follow My footnote to you folks who are twisting both words and reality is to simply find something constructive to do. Perhaps, gardening or something that will get you closer to the soil and the wonders of creation. |
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re: technique | ||
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With no affront intended to this fine website, I have to clarify one point in your rather laborious (read: meaningless) post.
You are using GenSuck.com for "researching business issues in genealogy" ? hehehehehehe ... I'd LOVE to read that thesis |
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merope3 |
Re: re: technique | ||
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Yeah, I remember Root$web from way back when too. Their basic business model seems to have always been "lie to everyone, take their money, appropriate their ideas, and promise them the moon some indeterminate time in the future." Selling out was an innovative twist, but MyFamily didn't step in and save them. They were grooming Root$web for sale for over a year before the actual money changed hands.
-Teresa Editor & Publisher, Daily Board Show |
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Haaaavahd |
Where were you all in 1987? 1996? 2000? | ||
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I was, and others were personally getting hammered by nasty doings of an evil doctor, pray tell where were you ? Out chasing pipeline rats or stacking punch cards? Some of us here go back to pre-web days of GEnie, Prodigy and FidoNet, and are very well versed in both the history and etiology of genealogy online. Where were the contributions then from your favorite keypunchers? Maybe Sharon would benefit from a more accurate, relevant and less irrational knowledge of the history and reality of what has occurred over time. Would anyone like to venture a wager that "Sharon" is not who "she?" portends to be..... could it be an evil doctor decompendating right in front of our eyes? What a horrid verbal salad that post is and that failed to impress anyone, it seems. |
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