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Unregistered(d)	Ancestry's "tremendous announcement"	Lead	[-]
Posts: 0 (07/31/03 09:01:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Ancestry's Site Comments Board administrator has been teasing users along again with some "tremendous announcement to be made on Thursday" (today). The big whoop turns out to be nothing more that the 1880 census is finally indexed (thanks to the LDS CD) and connected to the images. Like anyone cares. The entire census has been available free on the LDS site for a long time and you can own your own copy for $50. Granted, it's transcribed, not the images. AC users have been screaming for Ancestry to finish work on the 1860, 1870 and WWII draft cards for over a year and this is the best they could do.
Unregistered(d)	wwi?	#1	[-]
Posts: 0 (07/31/03 18:57:07) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Agreed about the 1860 and 1870 census indexes, but don't you mean WWI draft cards? The WWII draft cards (from the old men's draft) have not been microfilmed and I doubt if Ancestry.com would undertake that.
Stelis	Re: Ancestry's "tremendous announcement"	#2	[-]
Posts: 325 (08/01/03 07:34:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	On Gary's vantage point, Ancestry gets all sorts of requests and complaints from the public, and in perception, this is a big announcement. To the rest of us, it's not that big. As to the WWI draft cards, there were some unexpected problems with microfilm quality, that put a wrench into their imaging strategy. They hadn't planned for this problem. But as for big announcements, MyFamily.com released Family Tree Maker version 11 today. Steve co-host, GenSuck.com
Unregistered(d)	This is why the 1880 is done and others are not.	#3	[-]
Posts: 0 (08/01/03 09:24:43) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	copied from the LDS site familysearch.org: "The 1880 U.S. Census Index is now linked with digital images of the original census documents; made possible through an agreement between MyFamily.com, Inc. and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The 1880 U.S. Census index and images can be accessed at both www.ancestry.com and www.familysearch.org. Agreement Benefits to Users: The 1880 U.S. Census index can be searched for free at both www.ancestry.com and www.familysearch.org. The digital images of the original census documents are available at Ancestry.com and can now also be accessed from Familysearch.org. Patrons of the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah, and any of the 4000+ family history centers worldwide can view the images at no charge. Church members who sign on or register as members through Familysearch.org can also view the images at no charge. Other users through familysearch.org can view the images for $9.95, which will give them access for 30 days. (updated: July 31, 2003) "
Stelis	Re: This is why the 1880 is done and others are not.	#4	[-]
Posts: 325 (08/01/03 09:51:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The 1880 census index was compiled by volunteers, and that is why it is available for free from LDS and Ancestry. THe images cost money. Steve co-host, GenSuck.com
RJSamp	Re: This is why the 1880 is done and others are not.	#5	[-]
Posts: 25 (04/05/04 17:54:58) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The 1880 Census by transcription is one of the better one's out there for completeness and accuracy. But why won't the LDS FHC genealogy experts make any corrections? It's nice to be able to download 'household' GEDCOM's, but why can't the LDS guru's use the old 80/20 rule and assume there's a marriage involved (OK so it's more like 95/5)? Lot's more clicking involved in joining children to mommy daddy then there is to unlink a child that actually is a boarder or servant. Is there any push to include a 'household' relationship in the GEDCOM file structure? RJ Samp Wheaton, IL
Unregistered(d)	"household relationship"?	#6	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/05/04 21:37:12) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The transcription contains only information written on the census. If the relationship to the head of the household says "other", that is what was transcribed. It is your job to figure out those relationships, or lack thereof. I have seen married daughters, counted with their parents as "other" and as "boarder". I have found mother-in-laws listed as "domestic". Stepchildren, married or not, are quite often listed as "Other" as they are not related to the "head", only to his wife. If the LDS "experts" added/edited information, if they somehow knew it, would open to question the validity of the transcription. Somethings you have to do for yourself, like figure out who was in grampa's house in 1880.
RJSamp	Re: "household relationship"?	#7	[-]
Posts: 25 (04/07/04 20:07:08) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'll stand by my statement that over 80% of the relationships in the house hold are family members. And unlinking these relationships takes less key strokes than clicking on add child, searching for the record, selecting it and hitting OK. Lot quicker to unlink the boarder's, servants, and relink a grandparent as a parent of the head of household than to link 12 children of a head of household and wife household. May not be an A grade.....but a B or B+ isn't bad. Assuming that NONE of the relationships is in the same family when their is a Daughter or Son with " as the last name (or 'do') is 100% wrong. That's worse than an F, it simply sucks. As a skilled database programmer this would be a piece of cake to program, and save hundreds of hours of time. RJ Samp
Unregistered(d)	No Fun!	#8	[-]
Posts: 0 (04/08/04 06:45:06) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi RJ, Whether they can do it or not isn't the point to genealogy. If it were so easy, nobody would bother with it. What this does is stimulate your brain to out think those that came before you in order to better understand them and yourself. What you are advocating could be done by a bowl of jello, and be just as interesting. Do your own homework.
RJSamp	What this has to do with	#9	[-]
Posts: 25 (04/09/04 05:46:48) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	saving key strokes is beyond me. I've got my great grand mothers scribbled genealogy....as well as two family bibles. Great record keeping systems in their day. But at age 49 call me modern, computers are a marvellous tool for recording data in a retrievable, searchable, and report generation capable fashion. And the internet has the potential (it's not there yet) for keeping me out of moldy dark dank church basements in what used to be Gross Bellschwitz, Rosenberg, Marienwerder, Westpreussen, Preussen...and now is Balosycze Poland. Not that I wouldn't want to go visit there......but I certainly don't want to be scouring church registries when it's sunny out and a whole country is there to explore. Understand about the jigsaw puzzle nature of Genealogy, and I am definitely one that won't stop hunting until I've exhausted dozens of leads and conjectures.....on or off the web. and then I'll retry it a year later, or bounce it off another relative, etc. The thrill of the hunt and the brain twisting exercise is mostly why I do this. But this "Household to Marriage conversion request" is about typing, arthritis, and speed. The data is in one format (web html, by household, certain column order of data) and many of us are trying to get the bytes into similar fields and records in a Genealogy software program. Why else would the LDS have a Downloadable GEDCOM by Household extract/save button? Maybe GenCircles would want to share his GEDCOM generating code, I could rewrite it to do a screen scrape or household to marriage interpretation..... (and it wouldn't be that tough to add marriages for in laws, grand daughters, etc.) In the meantime, I hear you, and I simply click a few more times to link them up to the marriage. It's OK to wish.....heck we didn't have Internet Census images and indexes 20 years ago.... RJ Samp Wheaton, IL

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