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tamitambow	mytrees.com	Lead	[-]
Posts: 1 (12/10/03 07:04:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None I am new to this message board, but from what I see, I share the aggravation of all roads leading to ancestry.com. I did have a 14 day trial membership, but had no problems cancelling this. Good news. I found a nice site through kindred konnections called my trees.com. You can receive one month free just by downloading your gedcom file. There is lots of free information here, and it even will cross search with other trees. I found more information through this site than through genealogy or ancestry.com. Hope this helps some of you. Sorry if this is a duplicate
lisagen	trees.com	#1	[-]
Posts: 30 (12/10/03 17:55:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'd be wary of paying simply for access to gedcom trees. It's hard to imagine that being anything but a rip-off. But as I have never heard of trees.com, I tried to look at it - seems to be a music site. Lisa
lisagen	mytrees.com	#2	[-]
Posts: 30 (12/10/03 17:57:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Oh well, disregard previous post. I didn't see the "my" in mytrees.com. Lisa
Unregistered(d)	You get what you pay for	#3	[-]
Posts: 0 (12/11/03 07:09:37) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I have found some very erroneous information on mytrees.com with regard to my family. I would be extremely cautious with regard to the information you find there and verify it by looking for the original source documents. I think that they have had a number of users who simply uploaded whatever preliminary junk they had in the files in order to get the free access, so you get all of their mistakes to wade through.
Unregistered(d)	Gedcom's	#4	[-]
Posts: 0 (12/11/03 08:04:56) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Posting Gedcoms willy-nilly onto websites is dangerous and helps create the Net-garbage we constantly rant about. The Newcomers (and some who should be better trained) grab them, add them to their Gedcoms and the problem expands. There has been enough discussion in here about KK and others, to warn people, ad nauseum. Unless your data (and the data you download) is sourced and you can verify the information, it is all speculative. Even then, NEW evidence can surface which causes YOU to erase your data and use the new stuff. What if you (or the other submitter) now realize a MAJOR error? How is it ever corrected without re-submitting another Gedcom, which does NOT override the previous one? How are the people who have already grabbed your submission and used it with their data bases learn of the changes? How do they now change theirs, alerting others? Get the idea?
rottenralf	i don't like that abbrev.	#5	[-]
Posts: 142 (12/11/03 10:52:52) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Post- i don't really care for the abbreviation "KK" it sounds so klannish. I much prefer KinKon, it just says so much more.
Unregistered(d)	Abbreviations	#6	[-]
Posts: 0 (12/11/03 17:22:20) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ralf, I hadn't thought about the 2 K abbreviation as being close to the offensive 3 K one, but KinKon does sound better and is less apt to be mistaken for anything else. YW
Guest	there you go	#7	[-]
Posts: 148 (12/14/03 15:32:47) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	McGenie
TonyG63	Hmmmm...	#8	[-]
Posts: 10 (12/16/03 08:27:13) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I ran one of my favorite searches on this site to view the hit list, and came up with some similarities to what I frequently see on Rootsweb (and get for free, I might add). In fact, one of their hits gave me a link to Rootsweb, and when I clicked the link I was directed to a registration page where I would have had to pay to see what was on Rootsweb! Save your money. Something here just doesn't seem right.
Unregistered(d)	OOPS.	#9	[-]
Posts: 0 (12/16/03 09:04:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I was okay with the original post until they submitted the GEDCOM. You Lose.
Unregistered(d)	Removing data from MyTrees.com	#10	[-]
Posts: 0 (07/07/05 13:56:01) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Has anybody tried to get MyTrees.com to remove links to their genealogy data? A couple of years ago I registered with MyTrees.com, but I did not upload my data to their website. Today, I ran a surname search on MyTrees, and found that most of the hits reference my data published on my own website. When I click on one of the links I'm told that I need a paid subscription to access the data. It's my data! I never gave MyTrees.com permission to resell my data. Anybody know how I can get them to remove their links to my data?
GenuineBlob	Re: Removing data from MyTrees.com	#11	[-]
Posts: 25 (07/07/05 18:51:25) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* I never gave MyTrees.com permission to resell my data. Anybody know how I can get them to remove their links to my data? Ask them. Good grief, sometimes it is soooo easy ......
rottenralf	Re: Removing data from MyTrees.com	#12	[-]
Posts: 142 (07/07/05 20:27:02) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Carmen - As blob says, ask them, they might agree to remove them. If they don't there is probably very little you can do. As they say on their site: "A database that contains information from GEDCOM files that have been submitted to us, as well as information from files that we have indexed from the internet." You can't copyright facts, only the unique format of them. A gedcom isn't a unique format, and if it is a tree developed from a gen program, the publishers of that program hold copyright to the format, not you. You have to view it as not YOUR data, but data you compiled. While I understand your position, I don't know if there is anything you can do to force KinKon to remove it. You may want to ask nicely, if you become a bully about it to them, they may just turn you down flat.
Unregistered(d)	MyTrees	#13	[-]
Posts: 0 (07/08/05 04:39:22) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Carmen- If you put your information online it is there for the taking. If it is not in some unique format then none of it is copyrightable. Even if it were in a unique format the facts contained in it would still not be copyrightable.
GenuineBlob	Re: MyTrees	#14	[-]
Posts: 25 (07/08/05 07:05:11) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ummmm, "reily", Rottenralf said all that. Or is there an echo in here? here? here? here? here?
Unregistered(d)	Re: Removing data from MyTrees.com	#15	[-]
Posts: 0 (07/09/05 05:43:02) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	ralf and reily, Thanks for the information on copyrights. It just doesn't seem ethical for someone to grab another person's genealogy files. I sent a message to MyTrees to remove their links to my database, but I haven't heard back from them. I'm don't know if they made a copy of my website, or if they just have links to it. I'm going to remove some of my files to see if their links fail. The problem is that I need an active account with them to test it. This means that I'll have to 1) pay them money, 2)upload a GEDCOM or 3) do a data extraction for them. I will not pay them money, and I couldn't do a data extraction because they have no images available. So my only option is to upload a GEDCOM. I'll probably upload a minimal GEDCOM file with 60 individuals so I can test my links.

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